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you

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yes Neil hello for myself

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how many I'd like to know is dumb

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question so bended me how many other

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okay thank you

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and the other question is these superior

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beings which the OCR this will their

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craft fair line around in why don't they

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actually try to make more intelligent

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contact with us Robin are abducting us

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or or sightings and why are they hanging

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around why don't they just do something

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meet I don't think that's an agenda at

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all I mean for years a lot of people who

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believe that these beings they are

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highly advanced they may not necessarily

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be as hardly advanced as we think so and

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a lot of things say well why don't they

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land because they've got absolutely no

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interest really in the affairs of Man

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that's in my opinion they they have

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their influence they still man because

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we know looking back to many years how

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many visitations manifestations I mean

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how would you describe a UFO in 1300 or

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whatever and these things have been seen

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and we've labeled them in the 20th

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century they come from the source of

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light sources but that was easy

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yeah we we label in the affirmative that

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could mean bugger-all really but these

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says again in my opinion they've been

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here for a long time they're probably as

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we were seeing immortal they certainly

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have no interest in us generally but

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they do utilize man's presence on this

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planet and there's a dangerous point

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about what's at least of any so many

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people I've come across about these

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experiences but that small tiny number

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of people of course and comparison to

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the vigil

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the public you just look upon people

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like deities and so many others and

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think they look stop limiting I mean

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notice we get involved in the subject

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but we be here for a long time they

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don't have to you know somewhere else

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well again you know I don't know where

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they come from that's more likely they

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are welcome to us we are the aliens

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because these things these things are

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existing what we perceive to be another

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dimension of time and that's just a

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rough Lee hewed conception because we

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can only speak we are with our turkey

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conceptions about things that really we

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don't understand these things have been

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here for a long time a hell of a long

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time they don't seem to advance any

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further so maybe they're part and parcel

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maybe they were put here on earth with

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a lot of people generally speaking if

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you get close to these objects most of

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us consider there either malevolent or

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benevolence they appear to be benevolent

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if you like rather than the Netherlands

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most people that get get close to these

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sites in fact some people speculated you

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see a UFO sighting there isn't

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interaction the closer you get the

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bigger the interaction and some people

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have any interactions and they've

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changed completely they their whole life

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start speed chase but you do get people

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they cannot come to terms with the the

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horrifying experiences involving these

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things you know it seems to continue to

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happen

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all the time and they do embark on spit

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somebody once said to me all we are is

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on the shopping list so if the ladies

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you refer to them as advance beers now

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that might be the case technologically

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however morally if you like to say

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spiritually it's not telling that I do

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but whatever we're not certain whether

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they are a deal it was something that is

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morally and spiritually more advanced

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than we are we have intelligent species

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on this planet that live alongside us

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such as dolphins the higher primates

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cetera we study them on a daily basis

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however I don't believe that anybody has

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ever gone up to a dolphin and tried to

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explain why we're studying them we we

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sadly judge advancement on this planet

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as technology but I mean War of the

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Worlds we're right at the beginning when

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it states that they watched us as we

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would watch insects or microbes in this

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could be the same situation I honestly

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there's almost they have no

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consideration with regards that way how

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we feel about the situation and people

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are generally looked on as being

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spiritually died in there's the greys

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who range from either malevolent to just

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okay and was it was religion something

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friend Reverend Reverend Paul legally he

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felt the saying about them being demonic

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and you know they were a threat to

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mankind and but with regular jump you of

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course one shouldn't forget that he's

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had one or two sightings in Spain which

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terrifying and he I'm not surprised that

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he went that way

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perhaps with prostration practices and

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inability to come to terms with

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something that he considered maybe not

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extraterrestrial but denying I suppose

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it is all depends I mean when we went to

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see him he was he was insistent

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you know reason you you've got to take

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communion you've got to get protection

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from these things and who knows but

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that's the way you went and they did

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bernal with his stuff because he was he

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was terrified and that's how it wasn't

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about cutting robbing you knew him

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better than me but that's how some

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people perhaps deal with it these folks

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many people in the church are like UFO

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experiences and they believe Gotham is

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demonic well I don't think so because

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first of all we mean to rip us when we

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and my god that man would have had to

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stand up steps because you couldn't have

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seen him otherwise I mean I've talked

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about somebody seven or eight nine foot

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tall and when you sit in the lounge and

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you go claps of the window

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that's impossible and the thing is I

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there was serpent not necessarily in

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South Wales but for years the the

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sightings of these beings without faces

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or silver suited bodies they that they

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are lead to UFO history all over the

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world and so amazing you know when

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somebody comes forward and claims that

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he or I think people automatically

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assumed it was him a producer but

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Pauline Kuhn said I believe you know any

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chance to listen to it today but Pauline

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comes she said well if that was the case

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she said I've asked him what did you see

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when you look through the window and he

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can't tell me he can't write why but I

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mean I'd spoke to the police officers

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that went there and there's no doubt

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they obviously saw some that was

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terrifying and you know sitting areas we

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talk about these things but you know if

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they seem to do happen and they happen

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quite far more freedom than we perhaps

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consider but it was the same in

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Rendlesham forest when some lunatic said

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then he he set fire to a lorry load of

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Virgil

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which was the result you know but

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rubbish but yeah but he's just by the

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rich tapestry South Wales folklore there

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is me I detected that actually I think

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that you look back to the history it's

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really interesting by the these these

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silver see the entities do can crop up

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and then quite often see in twos they

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quite often holding a staff between them

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they're quite these things do reimagine

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I don't know how to explain that but as

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I said my was surprising my perfect came

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through it very much as a story that was

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one that I had to include these things

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in I remember having a conversation with

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this chap you mention going back some

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time now I've been about 15 17 years ago

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and I wish I could sit I'm afraid I

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don't have my notes from that

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conversation with me so I wish I could

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say to sit here and say what he said he

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was and wasn't responsible for but he

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definitely said there was one incident

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that he was not responsible for and I

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might be tallying with what you're

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saying that of course that's not to say

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it's it's yeah it's a strange place

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there were people there I think in sighs

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I don't know I didn't speak to anybody

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but but we had some visitors down here

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with us from London today and they

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wanted to see it and I think the

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say it's recite he drove down there

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they'd be of the lights and a machine

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you know to get there it's not easy is

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it the reason while I'm walking as a

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word at this stage is that the family

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that we saw there the that there was but

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one of the girls I think or boys was

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terminally ill and it was quite

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upsetting but they they made us welcome

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they told us strange things were

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happening there I mean this was like 10

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years ago so no doubt saying it before

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Haven Hotel whoever takes over that or

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ripest and fun starts again but I said

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you today about the couple that came out

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and were terrified they said they

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stopped over

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and I think this paper mentioned other

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thing we say is maybe it's something to

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do with me little bit with not so much

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with the property but what the property

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occupies you know means so many

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questions and very few ones a white

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figure in connection with the havenport

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hotel which goes back far far before the

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events of 1977 this machine it's

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normally described as the white lady and

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I've been seen in myself birds in broad

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daylight she's she's a major part of it

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so I mean this like like speakers

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mentioned earlier on that there are

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certain elements with regards for the

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UFO phenomenon where you start crossing

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over into what becomes the paranormal

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now I get I get really nervous crossing

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over into that because as I explained

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earlier on I am very scientifically

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minded but sitting in the case of the

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ripest important case there were things

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which bore more resemblance to

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poltergeist activity then actually most

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people regard as UFO activity and Chuck

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has run the place though they're

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now it's not the house now I know

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certain parts Roman Catholicism do do

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understand exorcism um plans in whereas

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other what's wrong horses and thumb and

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it strictly sort of to do so so there is

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for them many people talk about alien

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abductions

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we can't from my own point of view I

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can't prove that an alien abduction

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takes place well I can prove through

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through through my research is talking

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to enough people and the have been on

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lonely country road so many cases

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involving trucks families people that

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have been out for an evening out and

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then taking motorists something will

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chase them something will interact and

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their whole lives will be changed and

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immediately after what they consider to

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be a UFO encounter it starts a few weeks

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later things happen in the house they

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see those

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what they perceive LIGO but they don't

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associate them with the UFO sighting you

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know I for years I find original to

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believe that surely alien abductions

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time time can't take place but when you

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speak to people that show you that the

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marks and the scars and the physical

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things they think that has happened to

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them

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you obviously treated with far more

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seriousness but what people are actually

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witnesses and experience generally is

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the same throughout all of these if you

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like abduction experiences involved

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similarly described beings and medical

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maladies that follow afterwards and some

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of them are quite serious somebody once

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said to me they thought every time

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anybody sees a UFO it's a prelude to an

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abduction and maybe they're right

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maybe they are you know most people get

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away with it but people that are very

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close to the the energies that these

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things give off will report some

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horrendous experience

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I think if you want to call being able

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to cease but how do you determine that

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is difficult okay I do I've got I didn't

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and on John's original Drogheda zeros

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like a page of an exercise little sketch

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and your report was that long before the

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it wasn't taking over this pressure

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right I mean I believe that I think the

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distance between me and their their

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sighted on the same gives me a different

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perspective on that I wasn't fond of the

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group someone who could operate it with

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their story right and I was going out

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there to prove they were so so the fact

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that I had my separate cited that that

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does give a and yeah I can approach it

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yeah I think just about David was

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sharing a story there look like to thank

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all my fellow super members Steve

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Nathalie salvation Dana might seem Oh

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Sean

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hopefully I am NOT sir the question yes

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I really wanted to see that but they

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were pulling rooms which we just did not

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the time but later on we got to be

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obvious disappoint ever got round to

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show you the film on their cardiff pilot

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right a few years ago and he you know

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tom the same atomic carry public a

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McKenna's friend named debris and he

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said he was on a run a flight over the

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UK and all of a sudden they saw this

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object like a steel ball shoot across

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the sky terrific speed and stopped dead

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in front of the plane so that they

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banker playing dive down land and

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reported it he said the few months later

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he was at

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oops and a couple of pieces most harrier

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jump jet pilots that they came in and

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they were talking in the mess about UFOs

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so you went over introduced himself they

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sourced got it in with you explain what

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happened and they said that's the

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biggest kept secret

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they said those things are going to come

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to you all the time and you said where

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the hell did they come from and he said

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well the exact words were there's a

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mothership

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bottom on the channel or the north

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sanitizer and these things come at me

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all the time

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and the same very evening guy would you

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